Dear Asians, when will you start telling your own story?

By Rei Tanotsuka, 30 June 2021.

Hey you, yeah you with the yellow/brown face, when are you going to grow a pair, fill a cup or do something worthy of commendation?

Why in this epoch of tech-nerdom, when we are no longer beholden to a group of self aggrandizing imperialists to depict us, do we STILL insist on using their brushes to paint our own portrait? Are we just really whitewashed or incredibly stupid?

But Westerners told us we were oppressed, so we must be!

…..and I’m telling you, you have MORE freedom than the idiots who sparked a “healthy” debate that only, oh killed 8 million odd people (yes, I’m looking at you Martin Luther of the Reformation). Imagine a society SO FUCKIN’ riddled with oppression that they SKINNED ALIVE a female philosopher-cum-brilliant math genius, Hypatia! You would think that some sort of cerebral elevation would have mutated out of the all the permutations of stupid after 500 years, but nope, the West stands coolly still, abiding by its “say yes” principle to racism, sexism and ageism!

“It blows my mind how many major corporations are completely clueless……..From racism to fat-shaming, you’d think all these brands were running for president!” Lilly Singh, YouTube personality and TV host. However, it’s not just Western corporations which are “clueless”, so are the journalists, gas pumpers, valet attendants, accountants, physicians……

So what brought on this acerbic harangue? A recent article written by yet another Western brain washed and tumble dried Asian, lamenting the arduous “Asian” responsibility of compromise that is inherent in ALL social structures …..if only I could get a cent for every one of these lobotomized minions, I’d have enough to purchase a seat next to Bezos on his zoom to moon mission.

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Now Caitlin So is an Asian activist and I applaud her for her efforts, yet she’s someone who just doesn’t THINK. Like so many Asian “activists” who end up pillorying us by inadvertently advertising our so called stereotypes as a form of catharsis – a “brave” surrender to the allegiance to truth rather than to tribe, they are wrong. So bloody wrong, it’s not funny.

Caitlin doesn’t take a gargantuan dump on Asian culture per se, she just litters her piece enough to implicate us as the usual stoic, compliant, filial piety above all else creations, not one which I’ve ever personally met in my entire life. Want to claim I simply haven’t met enough Asians? I’m an Asian Australian Gen X’er living in Japan, trust me, I have met enough Asians!

Caitlin’s non story deliberately neglects the notion of a social contract that evolved inorder to ensure that our world would emerge more noble savage than short, brutish and nasty. She manages to turn a perfectly normal, yet far from ideal situation into a cultural conundrum. Am I saying that there’s no responsibility with being the eldest Asian sibling? Hell no, but back up for a sec sellout Su Li, ALL ELDER siblings are expected to be responsible for the younger ones! Is Caitlin only aware of Asian culture or simply a simple girl?

You’re not a personal babysitter,” read the text from my friend after I told her I wouldn’t be able to meet up. “Tell your parents you don’t exist to serve them and that you have your own sh*t to do.” Taken from the above linked story.

First of all, BOTH of her parents work, probably their asses off, because thanks to the West, OUR ASIAN homelands were:

* drugged up, leading to a revolution to purge the barbarians who had issues with bathing, but none with drugging an ENTIRE NATION – (China)

*bombed to smithereens – (Japan and Korea)

* had an American puppet dictator installed, resulting in a mass “Communist”……commicide? – (Indonesia)

*invaded and whipped into compliance for over 400+ years – (Philippines)

*had everything looted while installing shitty sewage pipes – (India)

* changed into “eco tourism” for folks who are prone to skin cancer after 5 minutes of sun exposure – (Sri Lanka)

*housed with CIA thugs, (then OSS agents) who were spying on China because of uranium deposits, with the fear that Russia would get its paws on the glowing rocks. The CIA infiltrated China right before China’s “invasion” into Tibet. Douglas Mckiernan and Frank Bessac, we know what you spying, lying bastards did, basically screwing up Tibet, promising them “liberation”, while leaving them high and dry when America understood the mountainous pile of coins up for grabs by befriending China – (Tibet)

* attacked by decimating all vegetation through highly toxic chemicals BECAUSE OF A MISTAKEN radar image…*smh, and you think American technology is “advanced” (only if advanced means senile decline) – (Vietnam).

* fractionalised 3 ethnic groups that had historically worked together harmoniously, into a Malaysian elite, Chinese capitalist and Indian labour class. The British touch ensured that these 3 groups turned on each other, with echoes of the discriminatory policies still alive and kicking today – (Malaysia)

* subjected to TED talks, just kidding, I meant NED talks with the unscrupulous US chucking over a $1mil to get the anti China hysteria going, leading to mass disruption of daily life – (Thailand)

If I left out YOUR kinda Asia, apologies, I need to keep this post under a billion examples of Western interventionism….

Sorry, back to Caitlin’s sob non story….

I have two younger sisters. I’m five years older than my middle sibling, and 13 years older than the youngest. When both my parents are out working, I’m entrusted with the responsibility of taking care of them. Still, that’s a pretty standard job for the oldest sibling. But when you’re the firstborn in an Asian or immigrant family, the line doesn’t stop at merely babysitting.”

Look, I’m not totally devoid of a personality, nor am I ‘frighten small children’ ugly, but in all honesty I didn’t have a million engagements to prioritise before I fossilized. Most people spend an inordinate amount of time marinading in their own farts while watching telly, then occasionally we get a party invite and suddenly it’s “we party all the time” pretentiousness. What am I saying? Caitlin has SELECTIVE AMNESIA, just like the plethora of Asians who pretend we have a cultural imbroglio so mired in “Confucianism”, that we simply have “no choice”.

This is what I abhor, painting us Asians us being inflexible and filled with trepidation. WHO THE HELL is like that? I know ZERO Asian parents who are so belligerent, that they threaten to cut off their kid’s gonads if they want to go shopping for face paint, and I know even fewer Asian kids who fear their parent’s wrath in the way Caitlin alludes. What is she, a foot bounded princess of the Song Dynasty?

Quit the bullshit my fellow Asians, and STOP talking about ourselves through Western lens, and start telling the truth!

As you are trashing your own lineage by remarking on its Svengali inhibitions, you some how managed to have a feel up sesh behind the family couch with that “studious” Andy Wong on a Wednesday, and stole a bag of KitKats for the bulimia party with your White girlfriends on Friday. Anything to fit in right?

Also, care to mention all the times you actually ASKED your parents if you could go out and they said “Sure. Lock the door, dinner will ready for you when you get back. It’s braised chook legs tonight.” Then cough up the TRUTH that it was YOU who wanted to come home early, because who the fuck doesn’t come home for braised chook legs?

Asians on average, are probably one of the easiest going people culturally. We don’t force you to join our brand of heaven, and we certainly don’t expect you to enjoy our montage of hell. Life is YOURS, and while it’s NORMAL for Asian parents to provide structure to one’s life as a child (in like manner of ALL PARENTS) but most will let go when the kid starts menstruating/ shaving and grunting unsavoury sounds at night. My parents were belt buckle strict when I was a little shit, but as soon as I finished highschool and legally became an adult, they said I was now free to screw up my own life in anyway I wish.

I fled to Japan at a time where Australian TV was rampant with stories of Aussie women getting pimped out in Japanese brothels. My mum asked me, are you aware of this and did you sign up for “dancing” jobs? I said no. She said cool, dad and I will visit you when we win the lotto, bon voyage!

When I wanted to marry my toyboy husband, my parents said are you prepared to stand by the punk as he starts from scratch when you are already established? I said yes. They said, good on ya cougar, then told me they will prepare some traditional Chinese bracelets from the culture of old…..later, they couldn’t be assed to get a pair of dragon phoenix bracelets, so they gave rapidly depreciating fiat instead….

One of my English classes is at a pharmaceutical/ nano tech cancer research thingamajig – *read LOADED boss. These parents have only ONE son and his ambition? No, not to take over the fam bizness! He wants to be a dolphin whisperer, entertaining the crowds at antiquated establishments called Aquariums. Yes, this kid wants to professionally gear up in a wet suit with a domesticated Free Willy in tow, crowds applauding him as puts his head into the mouth of the biggest pet fish he’ll ever have. The parents are nonplussed, and cheer him on.

Will Dolphin Boy’s ASIAN STORY receive the acclamation of Caitlin’s? No. Why? Because it doesn’t denigrate our spirit or culture in any way.

Look further than your own ass, or just STOP “helping“!

The problem with the myopic visions of the latest band of Asian “warriors”, is that they are going to a pool party on a full belly – sure they make bubble waves, but none are lauded like a jacuzzi. It feels like they are fighting for us, especially when they marry these heinous articles with strong pieces related to the recent onslaught of violence on Asians, and this is what is truly deleterious.

While yours truly, is never mistaken for a “moderate” (I know my history/economics/ politics far too well to be in that position) the damage that I will do to the Asian community is minimal even if I do occasionally mess up. I’m labelled a “crazy” extremist by many (but never by people who are well versed in history), so people won’t use what I say as evincing a negative stereotype. Caitlin So is different. She comes across as “balanced” and hence her writings will be used as currency to support Western assumptions about us, and what are those? Blind sheeple who can’t live “freely” in their repressive Asian society, and this is all the ammunition the West needs to invade, shackle and Whiteman burden us once more.

Think it’s me who is losing the plot and not Caitlin write-alikes?

THINK……

Which side of the cultural spectrum has more freedom? A demographic they spends $13bil AUD on educating their kids in a country that until the 1973, had a WHITE’S ONLY POLICY, rounding up their indigenous people like cattle and openly persecuting Asians, or the group that GOES AROUND INVADING AND CULLING EVERY LIVING PULSE so that they can “discover” it, with almost NONE of their offspring daring to study abroad????

Just go and watch a quasi famous Western YouTuber who is pro China. They will always tell you in their “Why I came to China” videos, how “wreckless” and crazy their family thought it was for them to leave their lilly white shores…..

If you don’t think that smacks of restriction and paranoia, you m’dear are a damn hypocrite, always seeing your own magnanimity as parsimony, and viewing the Whiteman’s limitations as divine liberation.

Anyone who knows Caitlin So, please tell her to grow her own brain and REALLY FIGHT FOR US, or just stick to stats where she can’t further corrode the reputation that has already earned us a near two year harassment and death streak…..

14 comments on “Dear Asians, when will you start telling your own story?Add yours →

  1. I can’t stress this enough, Asians need NEED N E E D to grow up around other Asians and POC. So many of these identity issues and this internalized racism would be solved if these Asians had just grown up seeing people who weren’t white. When you interact with Asian Americans from non white environments and Asians from white environments, the contrast is very stark. For a really long time, I would actually avoid Asians who grew up with white people because so many of them are so far gone, they’re really upsetting to be around.

    1. It’s true, especially those who desire the white applaud, it’s abominable the way they conduct themselves- obsequious around white people, yet absolutely wearing a superior complex around other Asians just to “prove” they are white “inside”.
      This is why I call out this BS because it really is pathetic!

  2. Hardest thing is to admit to myself that I, too, used to be like that… But simply gaining awareness/being conscious about it is already a huge step forward. Only admitting this to yourself allows you to be empathetic to others who haven’t “woken up” yet

    1. Don’t worry, we all go through the stages of denial until we no longer can – that is, when we try our damn hardest to be white and realise that we will never be because that’s how they designed the system. They tell us we are equal until we try to be.

  3. Funny that you mention hipatia because he was ” western ” to the core genetically and culturaly greek educated in an academic and cultured greek environment, dominated by the Alexandrian Neoplatonic school, and learned mathematics and astronomy from her father, who also transmitted to her his passion for the search of the unknown and her passion for clasical greece filosophy

    Meanwhile cristian fanaticism was spread from the middle east killing hipatia while her other abrahamanic brother islam would do the same in the southern mediterranean destroyimg the library of alexandria

    If you want samples of fanaticism you only have to read the bible in which god commands his people to sacrifice their own children as a sign of reverence god, while their Phoenician brothers the great rival of Rome had elevated to the category of main god to baal who demanded the sacrifice of their own children, in many of the urns coexisted the offal of sheep and goats along with humans, incinerated at the same time , there are hundred of archelogical and genetical proof of that era , you only need to google it.

    I know what you are thinking , that everything good that came from europe is thanks to jews but you are absolutely wrong in fact jews were the ones who destroyed the clasical antiquity like the did with iran the other great civilizarion stagnated ever since the other abrahamanic spawn took over their country .

    1. Thank you for a very detailed reply. You are mistaken, I don’t think the good things Europe has come from Jewish people, ALL their thoughts and inventions have their roots in Bharat and China. There’s already a voluminous body of work regarding how many ideas the Europeans stole without crediting their Asian teachers.

      1. You cant force yourself upon us keep digging and desacrating our graves and use our bones as a cosmetic complement and then call yourself our teacher , All your narrative is the exact same spamed and embraced by blacks , latinos, muslims where every microscopic achieviment is blown out of proportion to justify the integration or an ownership of a civilization that clearly doent belong to them .

        let me put here a little a recopilation of scientific papers ( made mostly by chinese scholars) of how horse , chariots and metalurgy the basic ingredients of civilization were introduced in china by indo europeans

        >>The forging and casting of metal began in the fifth millennium BC in south-eastern Europe and the Caucasus, spreading on the one hand via the Circumpontic Metallurgical Province and on the other across the Near East and southern Turkmenistan to the East. In China, however, metallurgy began immediately in the form of alloying on the north-western edge of the region, in the late phase of the culture of Qijia in Gansu (c.2500-1900 BC). Here horses and wheat also appeared for the first time in China, just before the rise of the Bronze Age culture of Erlitou (2000/1900-1600 BC), widespread in northern central China. In 1927 the highly developed Bronze Age culture of Shang-Anyang (thirteenth-eleventh century BC) was discovered in Anyang, Henan. This culture saw the emergence of several fully developed technological innovations, but the question of its origin remained open.

        In 1979-80 Chinese archaeologists around Wang Binghua made important discoveries in the Lop Nor Desert, Xinjiang, which were also political dynamite: they uncovered dozens of well-preserved mummies, about 4,000 years old, of obviously Europid people. Since these Europids must have come from the west or north-west, hypotheses emerged that the bronze discoveries of Anyang could be related to these mysterious people, their predecessors or their descendants.

        The origins of Metallurgy in China

        The excavation of the royal graves of Anyang brought to light single-axle light chariots with horses in harness and their charioteer, as well as sophisticated bronze objects, which show that northern central China suddenly mastered innovations in metallurgy, horse husbandry, the use of draught animals, wagons and carts in a highly developed form, which undoubtedly accelerated the cultural-technological development of China at that time. Since these technologies appeared in northern and north-western China without any preceding developmental steps, it may be assumed that they were provided by neighbouring steppe peoples, most likely from the sphere of the late Afanasievo and early Andronovo cultures. Interfaces for this cultural transfer may have been the Bronze Age cultures of Xinjiang and Gansu or the steppe peoples of Inner Mongolia. The simultaneous arrival in central China of wheat and barley, horses and sheep, which could not have been domesticated within China due to a lack of wild ancestors, supports the hypothesis of a mediating role for Afanasievo and Andronovo.”

        Baumer, C., The History of Central Asia: The Age of the Steppe Warriors, 2012, p.122.

        https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=…page&q&f=false

        “The first steps towards an understanding of what contacts across this vast [Eurasian] region meant to China have been made in recent decades by scholars examining the ways in which cereals, wheat and barley, and metals, especially bronze and iron, came into the Central Plains [of China] (Jones 2011; Mei et al 2009; Linduff 2015; Lin 2015; Li 2015). The transfer of the chariot and horse to China has been under discussion for a much longer period, culminating in recognition of the dependence on prototypes in the steppe for the construction and management of chariots (Wu 2013: 37-45). […]

        Two major phases of change in the second and first millennium BC, respectively, generated movement across the steppe and had direct impact on central China. The first was a long-term expansion of activity over the third to mid-second millennium BC, as increasing mobile pastoralism and metallurgy both spread across the steppe (Anthony 2007: 371-457; Frachetti 2012). Over this time period, copper and then bronze were used, primarily for weapons and a few ornaments, in South Siberia and the eastern steppe, carrying metal work into Xinjiang, as well as Mongolia and the Hexi corridor (Linduff 1998, 2015). The second phase, probably starting at the beginning of the first millennium, was energised by widespread horse riding.[…]

        There was a debate, over more than half a century, on the origins of metallurgy in central China (Karlgren 1945; Loehr 1949). Today scholars generally accept that metal use entered China as metallurgy was adopted in the steppe and into the arc [i.e. Northwest China] (Chernykh 1992; Linduff 2015; Mei 2009). Some early metal finds in the arc (in the Hexi corridor and as far east as Chifeng) are only explicable as the result of several separate contacts with peoples from different parts of the steppe (Linduff 1998). Much of this early metalwork was of arsenical copper, smelted from an ore or achieved by adding arsenic to the copper. But although this alloy was introduced into China at the major site of Taosi in Shanxi province (Lin 2015, fig. 3), the central Chinese chose to work with tin bronze, to which they added lead, as some earlier casters of the Qijia culture in the Hexi corridor had done (Mei 2009:10). Tin bronze developed in the steppe, as seen in the Seima-Turbino phenomenon. Seima Turbino metalwork also impacted on the east: a spearhead-type with a projecting hook below the blade, originating in the Altai area, among other weaponry, was carried into China (Figure. 2). This connection ties some of the impetus for the choice of tin bronze in central China to such innovations (Mei 2009: fig. 3).

        The chariot appeared at the Shang court in the thirteenth century BC. Both the vehicle’s form, with large spoked wheels, and the paired trained horses must have been introduced from the arc and the steppe, where they were first used east of the Urals in Sintashta, about 2000 BC (Kuzmina 2008: 49-59). Such a completely new machine almost certainly needed steppe drivers and trainers for the horses, and we know that these were present at the Shang centre at Anyang from copies of steppe weapons found in their tombs (Rawson 2015: fig. 13).”

        Rawson, J., China and the Steppe: Reception and Resistance, 2017.

        https://ora.ox.ac.uk/objects/uuid:69…ournal+article

        “the Afanasievo tradition of pure copper metallurgy must have spread to the northern foothills of the Tienshan Mountains no later than the mid-third millennium BCE. The links with Afanasievo and local cultures adjacent to and south of the mountains into present-day China can now be assumed.”

        Linduff et al., Ancient China and it’s Eurasian Neighbours, 2018, p.54.

        https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=…page&q&f=false

        “the current study of copper and bronze metallurgy in late prehistoric Xinjiang demonstrates that Xinjiang acted as a medium in the early cultural interaction between Northwest China and the west of Xinjiang. Typological analysis is based on the observation that a variety of bronze forms associated with the Qijia, Siba, and Tianshanbeilu (Linya) cultures, all have parallels in steppe cultures. Metallurgical data revealed the use of tin bronze and arsenical bronze analogous to the composition of objects produced in the Eurasian steppe.

        The metal-using Afanasievo culture is probably the origin of bronze metallurgy in Northwest China. Contact with the Afanasievo culture may have been crucial for bronze metallurgy in Xinjiang. Ke’ermuqi cemetery in northern Xinjiang indicates Xinjiang–Afanasievo contact (Mei 2000: 15, 58). And Kuzmina (1998) discussed the possible relations between Qäwrighul cemetery and the Afanasievo culture. Afanasievo cultural influence in Xinjiang at the beginning of the second millennium BCE seems highly substantial. (cf. Jia and Betts 2010) Also, Xinjiang and the Gansu–Qinghai region during the first half of the second millennium BCE interacted with the bronze cultures of Qijia, Siba, and Tianshanbeilu. (Mei 2000: 66)

        Tianshanbeilu (Linya) cemetery is the earliest Bronze Age site in eastern Xinjiang. The group A ceramics of the Linya cemetery possess strong characteristics of Siba culture; Group B ceramics are unique and seem to have been influenced by cultures from the Altai region or even by areas further north. (Li 2003: 13) Thus Group B can be identified with the Afanasievo people, or those influenced by the Afanasievo culture. (cf. Jia and Betts 2010) Copper and bronze objects excavated at the Tianshanbeilu cemetery show clear typological connections with Eurasian steppe cultures. As thoroughly demonstrated in Mei (2003: 36), many of the more than 270 copper and bronze objects discovered from Siba culture indicate strong typological/stylistic connections with the Steppe.”

        Wan, X., Early development of Bronze Metallurgy in Eastern Eurasia, 2011.

        http://sino-platonic.org/complete/sp…metallurgy.pdf

        evidence has gradually appeared, showing the significant existence of Andronovo-type cultures in north-western Xinjiang [western China] during the second millenium BC. Metallurigical examinations of a number of Andronovo-type bronze objects fund in the regions of Tacheng and Yili have revealed the common use of tin bronze. […]

        “the early metal-using cultures found so far in North-west China (the Hexi Corridor and East Xinjiang), such as Qihia, siba and Tianshanbeilu, were all in contact with the bronze cultures on the Eurasian steppe. In other words, the influence from the people further west played a part in the early development of copper-based metallurgy in Northwest China.

        “there is other evidence pointing to the early cultural contacts between Northwest China and areas further west. for example, the earliest remains of carbonised wheat found at the Donghuishan site in Mile, western Gansu, have been dated by C-14 tests to 3000–2500 BC. … the first appearance of wheat in Gansu was most likely the result of early cultural contacts between Gansu and the regions to the west. This implies that some sort of western influence had already come into being in Gansu through Xinjiang as early as 3000 BC.

        the eastward transmission of early cultural influence may have involved wheat, copper-based metallurgy, jade, and iron technology. Although many questions still remain regarding any specific processes of transmission, in general terms, it has become clear now that some western materials and technologies were indeed transmitted eastward and made valuable contributions to the growth of Chinese civilisation. […]

        The earliest archaeological evidence for the use of chariots in China is that from Anyang, the capital of the late Shang dynasty (c.1200 BC). When the chariot appeared in Anyang, it was already in a fully developed form. On the western Eurasian steppe, however, there is ample evidence for the much earlier use of chariots. In particular, finds from the Sintashta site show that the chariot was already employed by about 2000 BC between the Volga and east of the Urals (Anthony and Vinogradov 1995). The view that the chariot was introduced into China from the west is now widely held among scholars, but there are differences of opinion regarding when and how this significant cultural borrowing took place (Shaughnessy 1988; Bagley 1999: 202–8; X. Wu 2001). […]

        Bronze Age rock engravings of the vehicle images (especially those with spoked wheels) in Altai, Tuva, Mongolia, and northern frontier of China (Fig. 1) provide indirect evidence that the Steppe Road would have been the major channel for the eastward transmission of chariots (Wu 1994: 328–9). Indeed, the use of chariots could have been an important impetus for the opening of the Steppe Road on the eastern Eurasian steppe during the latter half of the second millennium BC.”

        Mei, J., Cultural Interaction between China and Central Asia during the Bronze Age, 2003.

        https://www.thebritishacademy.ac.uk/…pba121p001.pdf

        “the appearance of metal items with affinities to cultural debris of Bronze Age southern Siberia, suggests that there was movement into the Gansu Corridor of newcomers who were possibly horse-herding (Anthony 2007), but certainly bronze producing peoples of Andronovo background (Peng 1998; Mei and Shell 1998; 1999).

        As Kuz’mina suggests (2003) the appearance of wheeled transport, metallurgy and use and/or breeding of horses signal not only movement of ideas, technology and perhaps peoples, but also significant societal change, and often lead to a more complex social order.

        “even the multi-piece mould casting method developed in the early second millennium BCE at Erlitou, thought of as a hallmark invention of early dynastic China, may be seen as a local technological variation within the easternmost Eurasian territory made for specialized ritual use (Linduff 2004).”

        Linduff, K., Mei, J., Metallurgy in Ancient Eastern Asia: How is it Studied? Where is the Field Headed?, 2008.

        https://www.britishmuseum.org/pdf/Li…ei%20China.pdf

        “Since the two-horse chariot appears so suddenly in the archaeological record of China around 1200 B.C. at Anyang, this has raised the inevitable question of its ultimate origins. Given the absence of compelling data detailing a previous indigenous evolutionary sequence of more primitive equid-drawn chariots leading up to the sophisticated Anyang type, the lack of evidence for horse domestication prior to Anyang, and the near seven-hundred-year head-start of Near Eastern prototypes, one must conclude that the horse-drawn chariot was diffused to China from outside in its fully-developed state. […]

        Chinese chariots match closely with several chariots recently unearthed in Russia/Kazakhstan and Armenia which date from 2000 B.C. and 1500 B.C., respectively, centuries older than the earliest Chinese examples […] The chariots, possibly the earliest in the world, were buried in sacrificial pits belonging to the Sintashta-Petrovka culture, a proto-Aryan culture situated just east of the Ural Mountains in northern Kazakhstan/southern Russia. At the type-sites of Sintashta and Petrovka over twenty burials showing evidence of chariots have been found. The rotted traces of their wheels show that they had eight to twelve spokes per wheel and that the distance between the wheels was approximately one meter. Much further to the southwest in the Caucasus, on the shores of Lake Sevan in Armenia, the site of Lchashen has yielded the remains of two complete chariots of very similar construction to those of Anyang. … Most important, the Lchashen chariots’ wheels have twenty-eight spokes, a number unheard of anywhere else outside China. The chariot boxes of the Lchashen vehicles are also similar to the Anyang chariots. The Lchashen’s rider-box is both wide (1.10 m) and shallow (0.51 m). … The Lchashen axles were also centrally placed below the box, unlike Near Eastern chariots, but identical to all Chinese examples. Beyond these important structural similarities, it should not be overlooked that the ritual burial context of the southern Russian and Chinese chariots is very similar, involving the burial of horses and chariot together. What this structural evidence suggests is that after the invention of the spoke-wheeled chariot around 2000 B.C. in southern Russia, it diffused in two directions, geographically and structurally. As it entered the Near East with the Aryan incursions into India and Anatolia, and with the Hyksos into Egypt, the chariot evolved along lines which kept it small like its predecessor. This variant evolved to have only four spokes, formed in pairs by 90° bent-wood pieces passed through the nave. The southern Russian and Central Asian tradition, seen at Lchashen and in China, shows an evolution towards a larger, three person vehicle. This tradition favors wheels with twenty to thirty spokes, formed by mortising straight segments directly into the nave. These different evolutions probably represent different woodworking traditions or simply different needs for the use of the vehicle. […]

        All throughout Central Asia, from the Caucasus to Mongolia, rock carvings have been found which depict humans riding in chariots. In all of these carvings, the chariot is depicted schematically from above, with the wheels laid flat rather than seen edge-on. This is exactly how wheels are depicted in the Shang oracle-bone pictograph for chariot.”

        Barbieri-Low, A., Wheeled vehicles in the Chinese Bronze Age, 2000.

        http://www.sino-platonic.org/complet…cles_china.pdf

        – about the famous terracote statues

        Greek craft workers may have helped inspire the most famous Chinese sculptures ever made – the 8,000 warriors of the Terracotta Army who have been watching over the tomb of the first emperor of China for more than 2,000 years.

        Archaeologists and historians working on the warriors say they now believe that the figures’ startlingly lifelike appearance could have been influenced by the arrival in China of ancient Greek sculptures, and even that Greek sculptors made their way there to teach their designs.

        Li Xiuzhen, a senior archaeologist at the site, said recent discoveries, including that of ancient European DNA recovered from sites in Xinjian province from the time of the first emperor, were overturning traditional thinking about the level of contact between Asia and Europe more than 1,500 years before the travels of Marco Polo.

        China’s mighty terracotta army gains 100 soldiers
        “We now have evidence that close contact existed between the first emperor’s China and the west before the formal opening of the Silk Road. This is far earlier than we formerly thought,” she said. “We now think the Terracotta Army, the acrobats and the bronze sculptures found on site, have been inspired by ancient Greek sculptures ”https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/science/2016/oct/12/ancient-greeks-may-have-inspired-china-terracotta-army-sculptors-ancient-dna

        And this is only a little part

        1. Ummmm, you do understand astronomical dating proves that the locations in Vedic texts date back accurately to 16,500 years ago right?…..that means CIVILIZATION to the point of record keeping and astronomy were ALREADY fully ingrained concepts in ASIA!! WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT???
          Copper moulding and production was already in place in the Mesopotamia 11,000 years ago, just in case you don’t know where that is, that used to be classed AS WEST ASIA!!

          You, are TYPICAL of the arrogant white supremacist who looks at all the information to support what you want to believe this is WHY you claim I’m siding with the”minority”.
          I’m using works done BY SCIENTISTS WHO HAVE BEEN KNIGHTED because of their contributions to ancient archeology.
          Also, PIG FARMING was already in place in China around 7,000 years ago. Do you even know what that means?

          The next time you think you’re clever by copying and pasting slabs of other people’s work, THINK. You are not going to impress someone like me who has actually READ BOOKS on the topics!

          1. And when i said that indo europeans created metalurgy ?

            I was implying that all the civilizations around the world had been influenced to some degree or another by external actors like is the case of europe or china but all the false narrative where only european civilization is judged and rob of all his uniqueness and sentenced by crimes that virtually every civilization had done ITS PROFOUNDLY FALSE

            Then you add ” west asia ” geografical term to falsely closen the relation with china when its have been historically and culturally much more related to europe and its clear that you dont feel any kind of atachment to them to anybody who have read more than four lines of this asian ( mongoloid) supremacist blog and basically negating what you said in you previous post afirming that china and bharat( india in ancient sanscrit a term introduced by aryans ) were the root of all knowledge.

            Btw the most ancient securely dated cooper metalurgy have beend found in europe in the balcans 7500 years ago and A study in the journal Antiquity published in 2013 reported the discovery of a tin bronze foil from the Pločnik archaeological site securely dated to c. 4650 BC as well as 14 other artifacts from Serbia and Bulgaria dated to before 4000 BC has shown that early tin bronze was more common than previously thought, and developed independently in Europe 1500 years before the first tin bronze alloys in the Near East.

          2. Lmao. No, WRONG. Bharat is the original term for India!!! Omg, you just outed yourself as thoroughly ignorant!
            .
            Iraq and Iran, the “cradle” of civilization HAS ALWAYS BEEN CLASSED AS WEST ASIA, only people like YOU adopt it as the “West”!.
            How ridiculous. Look at Zoroastrianism, that is NOT synonymous with Abrahamic religions, it is exactly the middle ground between Abrahamic and Hinduism and the phenomenological philosophy of Confucianism! Have you read anything OUTSIDE of what RED ICE, or Jason Jorjani recommends?

  4. Its false that center doent hold the gravity

    Clasical Greece ciclical conception of time and history is more closely related to hinduism

    Platonism world of ideas closest link is zoroastrian dualism .

    Cristianisty closest link are neoplatonism and zoroastrian dualism

    Judaic mesianism closely resembles hinduist brahamanic conception of itself

    Etc etc

    There is no progresion or a center and even if exist, it have been overshadowed by a new axis , And Its clear that the center , the core that unite them all and formed a new axis was founded by indo europeans , introducing hinduism in india , persians another indo european tribe founders of zoroastrism in iran , the invasion of dorians that would give birth to the clasical era in greece and the conquest of mitanni another indo european tribe that would heavily influence the conception of judaism .

    The only thing that was unknown to us was the connection between the Mitanni and the Hebrew people but genetic studies have come to certify what many already suspected thanks to the studies of mythology and comparative linguistics.

    I leave you as a farewell a compilation that a historian posted in quora a few weeks ago.

    Have you noticed that Abraham and his wife Sarah of the Old Testament are almost identical in name to Brahma and his wife Saraswati of the Hindu religion?

    Abraham is said to be the father of the Jews, and Brahma, as the first created being, is often seen as the father of mankind…’ We may also note that the name of Brahma’s consort, Sarasvati, seems to resonate with that of Abraham’s wife, Sarah [… the identity of each as wife and/or sister]. Also, in India, the Sarasvati River includes a tributary known as the haggar….. According to Jewish tradition, Hagar was Sarah’s maidservant.
    Abraham/Sarah and Brahma/Saraswati are not the only overlapping figures between Hindu and Hebrew traditions. Ajit Vadakayil points out that there is also Adam/Eve and Adhama/Havyavati, along with Noah and Nyuha or Manu

    Brahma as father of all, while Abraham as father of many nations.
    Brahman’s Milky Way is the Heavenly Cow/Dolphin; with 14 Constellations to the right of the Milky Way and 14 Constellations to the left, while Abraham’s star-shaped descendants are the 14 generation from Abraham to King David; 14 from David to the Babylonian exile and 14 from Babylon to Jesus.

    Brahma and Sarasvati lived 100 years together and then gave birth to their first son, while Abraham was 100 years old when Sarah, at 90, gave birth to Isaac.

    Let us review some of the Old Testament

    On that day, YHWH will chastise
    with his heavy, great and strong sword
    the Leviathan, the Àeeing serpent,
    Yes, the Leviathan, the writhing serpent…
    shall slay the dragon in the sea.

    The early Indo-European influence of the northwestern Semitic world may have
    come from a variety of sources. Two of them are especially relevant: the
    Indo-European cultures of Asia Minor (especially Hittite and Luwian) on the one hand, and the Indo-Aryan in Asuence (probably
    mediated by the Mitannians, who although mainly ethnically and linguistically Hurrian had
    and linguistically Hurrian had a clear Indo-Aryan influence or stratum in their onomastics and traditions.
    in their onomastics and traditions as well.

    As an example of possible parallel dragon slaying mythology from
    Vedic India, let us look at this text:

    He who after slaying the serpent released the seven rivers,
    …the one who expelled the cows that were held by Vala,
    he who between the two rocks gave birth to ¿re,
    …victorious in battles… He, O men, is Indra!

    In both cases, we have stories of a young and stereotypical male storm god, who uses lightning.
    as his weapon (in Indra’s case, often identified with his so-called 9DMUD,
    compare with the thunderbolt-shaped cedar weapon used by Baal in the
    Cycle of Baal and depicted on the Baal au foudre stele) defeating a terrible serpent.
    serpent. And just as Baal receives his weapons to destroy the god of the sea
    Yamm (an ally of the sea serpent) from the craft god Kothar-waHasis, Indra receives his weapons from the Vedic craft god Tva

    the story of the hero slaying the serpent / dragon in a myth that spread to most of the cultures conquered by the Indo-Europeans.

    you can read it here

    https://portal.research.lu.se/ws/files/21683942/Studies_in_Isaiah_offprint_Wikander.pdf

    but what about the main god himself? a storm god was behind the first conceptualization of the Jewish god YHWH according to Jewish historians

    so YHWH was probably a relative of the Indo-European Indra Thor or Zeus

    Jewish god Yahweh originated in Canaanite Vulcan, says new theory

    and can genetics help us solve the mystery?

    Yes, it can, the Levites the Jewish priestly class has one of the highest proportions of R1a halogen in the world, about 60% and its derivative is not from a recent Eastern European source, but is much older when the Sintashta tribe, the so-called Indo-Iranians, were conquering the entire Middle East around 1600 BC.

    there is no doubt that an Indo-European tribe in all probability the Mitanni conquered the Proto-Hebrews and imposed themselves as a priestly and warrior class over the Semitic masses introducing the idea of racial supremacy which at that time was only a concept developed by the Aryans especially the Indo-Iranian branch of which the Mitanni preceded and with which they shared gods.

    not only that the story of Remus is like Cain because they are the jealous brothers, and Abel is like Romulus because they are the good brothers. In the story of Cain and Abel, Cain killed Able because he was jealous that God favored Abel’s offering more than that of Cain.

    the story of romulus and oar and cain and abel is very similar, but how is that possible?

    Well, because they have a common root

    In the proto-Indo-European myth, Yemo and Manu were the first humans and twin brothers and for some reason Manu sacrificed Yemo to the gods and thus became the first priest and the ancestor of all humans.

    one more brushstroke

    if you take the original form of abjad the Semitic way of writing that does not use vowels becomes even more apparent

    Abraham<Brahma

    BRHM<BRHM

    1. Wait, do you know Zoroastrianism has two doctrines right? Gatha monotheism and strict dualism. Are you aware of WHAT GAVE RISE TO GATHA MONOTHEISM????? Damn

  5. So how does the R1a haplogen justify the holocaust and the Bengali famine and where do you see our shared Buddhist tradition? Also, how does your BRHM construct facilitate the ongoing Indian adoption of Prussian envy/hatred against Asia and the urge to exterminate equally nice and hardworking people?

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